Curse

Aramaki · Jul 17, 2006, 01:43 PM // 13:43

Hey Xunlai agent, can I paid another 200g but store 1000 of each material?
No? But a full set of armor for eg. 15k warrior requires like more than 250 iron Ingots ya know? Still no? Oh ok...

RTSFirebat · Jul 17, 2006, 01:54 PM // 13:54

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Originally Posted by Aramaki

Hey Xunlai agent, can I paid another 200g but store 1000 of each material?
No? But a full set of armor for eg. 15k warrior requires like more than 250 iron Ingots ya know? Still no? Oh ok...

You can still store extra amounts in the normal storage section anyhow. ^ ^

But yes it's a bit annoying but what to do.

Loki Seiguro · Jul 17, 2006, 02:01 PM // 14:01

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Originally Posted by Xenrath

It's better than nothing but it's another example of saying one thing and doing another (please don't split hairs over how 50g is nothing. It is something, and that's not what was said)

Also, still hoping for storage for event items and other collectable stuff. Most people probably have several stacks of the common materials e.g. wood, iron, cloth etc. so while it helps free up one stack maybe, most who have materials still have a lot of the same material stored on their characters.

thats true for me i had 1000 of every mat in my storage now i have 250 of every mat in my storage.... WOW big difference ANET!!....anyway anet is just too money hungry so they allow onyln facctions buyers to have it i bet if ppl dont buy GW3 they will do the same thing but with something differnt.....

RTSFirebat · Jul 17, 2006, 02:16 PM // 14:16

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Originally Posted by Loki Seiguro

thats true for me i had 1000 of every mat in my storage now i have 250 of every mat in my storage.... WOW big difference ANET!!....anyway anet is just too money hungry so they allow onyln facctions buyers to have it i bet if ppl dont buy GW3 they will do the same thing but with something differnt.....

I'm sorry, but that is plain ungrateful.

A.net didn't have to give us more storage, they didn't have to give us anything. But they did...

However small the new storage maybe, it extra storage. A.net promised "extra" storage which has been added in. Seems fair to me.

As for those calling A.net greedy, well they are a company out to make a profit, if you were working for them you'd think the same.

Anyways you don't NEED to by Factions anyhow. I lived with the normal storage for 1 year, using my warrior character as a mule, so its not like anything will change for people who still refuse to pay the small fee to buy factions.

Factions costs only £17.99 here in the UK, that is hardly anything at all.

So less of the A.net bashing

lyra_song · Jul 17, 2006, 02:40 PM // 14:40

I really think its a nice upgrade, but in the long run its a very very minor upgrade. The only real use for me for it is holding ecto, shards, jade and amber. It freed up a few slots on my chars, but i still have a few stacks in regular storage.

I do find it disheartening that our prophecies brothers and sisters cannot benefit at the same time as us but at the same time, i see Anet's logic in making it "exclusive content", even if minor.

I really feel torn at this issue.

Omega X · Jul 17, 2006, 03:08 PM // 15:08

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Originally Posted by Grasping Darkness

thats what i was thinking til i thought this.
You get what you pay for.
Who's to say Anet works for free.

when my craft mat storage is completely full i want to unlock the title "Full of S@%*"
hehehe

Anet doesn't work for free. You pay them with every chapter. In this case you payed $100 for Chapters 1 & 2.

bpphantom · Jul 17, 2006, 03:34 PM // 15:34

I love the extra storage. I almost emptied my normal storage and my materials mule has room left to go farm

MSecorsky · Jul 17, 2006, 03:39 PM // 15:39

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Originally Posted by Loki Seiguro

thats true for me i had 1000 of every mat in my storage now i have 250 of every mat in my storage.... WOW big difference ANET!!....

Bigger than you realize. Do you have any clue as to the difference in the amount of data required to store the two? If I'm not mistaken... it's double the amount of bytespace taken up. Multiplied for every character in the game... massive amounts of data storage.

sinican · Jul 17, 2006, 04:23 PM // 16:23

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Originally Posted by MSecorsky

Bigger than you realize. Do you have any clue as to the difference in the amount of data required to store the two? If I'm not mistaken... it's double the amount of bytespace taken up. Multiplied for every character in the game... massive amounts of data storage.

not really as big considereing is 1 storage per account not character... so for factions you can assume 1 storage for every 4-6 characters

im not complainning because its something for nothing really it didnt come with faction nor with prophacies t was ADDED out of no where...

i do wish it held more than it does considering i have an upgraded account and my 6 chracters have to share the same storage... i wish each had an individual storage as well as the general storage to transfer items to your other characters...

GUE Tech · Jul 17, 2006, 04:23 PM // 16:23

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Originally Posted by MSecorsky

Bigger than you realize. Do you have any clue as to the difference in the amount of data required to store the two? If I'm not mistaken... it's double the amount of bytespace taken up. Multiplied for every character in the game... massive amounts of data storage.

Can anyone be specific about the actual storage size?

A terabyte is approx. 1 trillion bytes. If it is in that general area, heck, I will buy Anet a drive or two.

Pillz_veritas · Jul 17, 2006, 04:26 PM // 16:26

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Originally Posted by GUE Tech

Can anyone be specific about the actual storage size?

A terabyte is approx. 1 trillion bytes. If it is in that general area, heck, I will buy Anet a drive or two.

no one realy knows how much info each character requires storage wise on there servers... :-/

Nexus Icon · Jul 17, 2006, 04:35 PM // 16:35

I'd hazard a guess and say that the reason stacks are limited to 250 is that that fits quite snugly into 8 bits or 1 Byte. 8 bits allows for 256 combinations.
What are there, 31 materials spaces? So that's 31 Bytes of information per account. That's about 60MB for 2 million accounts.
Hell, let's be generous and give each account 1KB of storage space. That's 1,024 Bytes or 8,192 bits.
That's about 2GB of storage.
Oooooooo, scary huge!

GUE Tech · Jul 17, 2006, 04:43 PM // 16:43

That's what I mean. Storage is cheap, so I don't see that as the bottleneck. I would welcome any proof otherwise.

I think the issue is "hoarding" not storage capacity of the servers.

thrashbasket · Jul 17, 2006, 04:49 PM // 16:49

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Originally Posted by 0mar

There's a developer interview where he mentions storage (along with reconnects, improved trading etc etc) as being features and therefore, enabled for all.

and storage is enabled for all. this is extra storage you get for buying their latest game, as a bonus.

raven214 · Jul 17, 2006, 04:55 PM // 16:55

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Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

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Originally Posted by Aramaki

Hey Xunlai agent, can I paid another 200g but store 1000 of each material?
No? But a full set of armor for eg. 15k warrior requires like more than 250 iron Ingots ya know? Still no? Oh ok...

You can still store extra amounts in the normal storage section anyhow. ^ ^

That is, unless you have something else in storage, such as extra sets of armor, weapons, trophies, runes, upgrades, dyes, etc. Then you get to do the juggling act with multiple characters and items that might not even be usable by them -- in the case of character-customized armor and weapons. That should not be necessary IMO.

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Originally Posted by Pillz_veritas

no one realy knows how much info each character requires storage wise on there servers... :-/

Except for ANet... and for some reason they aren't telling us.

(<-- tongue in cheek here, I realize they have no obligation/reason to give out that sort of information)

Don't get me wrong though, I do appreciate ANet's effort. But unless they're planning to make additional storage tabs for dyes, trophies, and what not, it seems a rather token gesture at best -- certainly not in the effort to make it, but in its impact. When you think about it, they had to create the tab system, add in slots for each type of material with counters for each, and so on... A second tab of general storage would have been more useful and easier to impliment IMHO, unless they are planning to add more (hint, hint ANet

).

Slainster · Jul 17, 2006, 05:12 PM // 17:12

actually.. dont get me wrong here completely.. while it would have been "nice"to add the feature to prohecies, I can kinda understand the mentalitly, even if it is meant to be the same game... what would be nice though is to have an agent upgrade "option" in Tyria, maybe in Ascalon to allow those of us with factions to be able to open the extra storage, without having to trek all the way to the otherside (and I guess this only really affects those of us that have started new Tyrian characters recently

)... ^^ rant over!

Sir Skullcrasher · Jul 17, 2006, 05:37 PM // 17:37

I wouldn't mind paying more for extra storage.

bobrath · Jul 17, 2006, 05:52 PM // 17:52

Next up, I want a "closet" where I can only put things that are customized for that specific character - so festival gear, farming outfit, my showoff 15k sets. :P

I really do appreciate the addition to storage. Completely freed my original storage up. I don't see a huge need for more then 250 per slot. Sure full armor sets can take more then 250 of one of the common items, but they're common! Its not like you'd have to spend hours getting that missing 50 iron ingots...

Loki Seiguro · Jul 17, 2006, 07:12 PM // 19:12

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Originally Posted by RTSFirebat

I'm sorry, but that is plain ungrateful.

A.net didn't have to give us more storage, they didn't have to give us anything. But they did...

However small the new storage maybe, it extra storage. A.net promised "extra" storage which has been added in. Seems fair to me.

As for those calling A.net greedy, well they are a company out to make a profit, if you were working for them you'd think the same.

Anyways you don't NEED to by Factions anyhow. I lived with the normal storage for 1 year, using my warrior character as a mule, so its not like anything will change for people who still refuse to pay the small fee to buy factions.

Factions costs only £17.99 here in the UK, that is hardly anything at all.

So less of the A.net bashing

ok true they didnt have to but they gave it and it was very nice of them but that little thing wont make up for all the other screw ups there are..and money has nothing to do with this. i dont care if i can buy it for 1 penny if the game sucks im not wasting my life on it so why buy GW3 if it sucks?

eternal pho · Jul 17, 2006, 07:17 PM // 19:17

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Originally Posted by Slainster

Which I find a little rude, how come phrophecies players are excluded? seems a little unreasonable

It's all about business and Anet will want as much sales as possible =D